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Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
4/29/22 5:34 p.m.

Factory Five Daytona Coupe! Friend of mine has been building it in my shop.

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
5/4/22 9:07 p.m.

Need to do some rust repair on the engine cradle.

nocones
nocones PowerDork
5/7/22 12:00 p.m.

I wonderw what happened there?  The rest of the subframe particularly the part that is open forwards on the car to collect salt/water doesn't look that bad.   But maybe it's horrible and it just doesn't show in the picture.

How does the battery tray area look?  That's the Right side of the subframe and connected to the chassis below the battery.  

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
5/7/22 12:32 p.m.

*looks at Mini*

Well, I'm a piker. blush

Definitely something funny in the water in NE Ohio..

 

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
5/7/22 4:43 p.m.

In reply to nocones :

The battery tray was gone! But I'm moving the battery to the front. I put a panel in its place. The whole passengers side of the cradle is pretty crispy. But the rest is pretty good. I'm replacing as much metal as I can, if I'm not happy when I'm done, I'll try to find a replacement.

Piguin
Piguin New Reader
5/7/22 11:55 p.m.

How did I not see this earlier?

It did allow for a complete rollercoaster reading of the thread though :)

 

- Yeah, Sofa King's other Europa looked awesome, but with a Fiero as a base the dimensions are going to look soooo off

- Wow! That is going to look great. And a 'Europa' with some actual crash safety!

- He... he... he cut the roof. Why did he cut the roof? And it was going so well...

- Ro...roadster Europa? That looks amazing!

- Why did I doubt him again? Hadn't I gone through the same thing with the LS Europa?

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
5/10/22 9:17 a.m.

In reply to Piguin :

Feels the same way for me! It might work... it's not going to work ... it could work...

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
5/11/22 9:25 p.m.

Progress on the engine cradle. Still needs the surface rust ground off and paint, but it's solid.


Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
5/15/22 9:42 a.m.

Here is the rest of the Daytona Coupe!

Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter)
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/15/22 9:58 a.m.

In reply to Sofa King :

Wow!

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
5/23/22 5:55 p.m.

Back from vacation ... got a little more done on the engine cradle.

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
6/17/22 3:06 p.m.

Trying to eliminate the dreaded Fiero rear bump steer. Could be overkill as I have never experienced it but... what the heck, here goes.

jmc14
jmc14 HalfDork
6/17/22 7:15 p.m.

Awesome! 

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
6/27/22 4:28 p.m.

Rear A arms and spindles almost ready to go back in!

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
7/6/22 11:46 p.m.

Rear control arms and spindles finally done!

Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter)
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
7/7/22 6:44 a.m.

In reply to Sofa King :

Those look nice!

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
7/7/22 4:03 p.m.

In reply to Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) :

Thanks. I'm going to assemble the rear suspension without springs and cycle it plus and minus 2" to see if there is any residual rear steer, but I don't expect any.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
7/7/22 5:38 p.m.

It is my understanding that you do want a small amount of toe-in in bump, this provides roll understeer for a more progressive feel.

 

This is where the suspension geometry theory nerds like me would make things like that adjustable...

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
7/7/22 9:03 p.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

I do have some adjustability available. How would you adjust this concept to achieve "bump toe"?

Purple Frog (Forum Supporter)
Purple Frog (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
7/7/22 9:08 p.m.

How would you adjust this concept to achieve "bump toe"?

Run the suspension up to about 1" above normal ride.  See if it toes in or out.

In most cases you never want toe out in the rear.   (maybe in drifting)

It is not unusual for many to try for toe-in during bump in the front.

YMMV

 

I don't understand the radical angle you put on your device to lock in the steering on the rear.   Looks like beefy tires will hit it.  

Sofa King
Sofa King HalfDork
7/7/22 9:37 p.m.

In reply to Purple Frog (Forum Supporter) :

The angle is necessary for the heim joint pivot point to match the pivot point of the ball joint. My goal is to turn the "a" arm into an "H" arm. The rear steer problem in the early Fiero's is a result of the location and geometry of the rear tie Rod. I'm not worried that the wheel will hit the arm, but the brake rotor could be an issue.  I think it will clear, if not I'll make adjustments.

Purple Frog (Forum Supporter)
Purple Frog (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
7/7/22 9:46 p.m.

In reply to Sofa King :

Got it.   yes

David_H
David_H
7/8/22 9:32 a.m.

Love this project, almost makes me want to learn fiberglass, almost.. 

thanks for taking the time to share your adventure 

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