Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
6/6/18 2:56 p.m.

[Editor's Note: This article originally ran in the May 2014 issue of Classic Motorsports. Some information may be different today.]

Restoring a car is a risky proposition.

While TV shows and auction coverage make it look like it’s quick, easy, and without risk …

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rsikes None
11/28/18 4:39 p.m.

As a shop owner,  all I can say is YES x 9!  Spot on! Great article!

TexSquirrel New Reader
11/28/18 4:39 p.m.

10. Losing momentum

I have a friend who has been restoring his 196x Ford Mustang for at least 20 years.

It is setting on a rotisserie waiting to be completed...someday

Tim Suddard
Tim Suddard Publisher
11/28/18 5:08 p.m.

Thanks, Ralph and TexSquirrel. It freaks me out how many stalled restorations I see in my travels. Most blame it on money, but the hard work cost very little on a restoration, if you are doing it yourself.

theonlyiceman53 New Reader
11/28/18 5:25 p.m.

Great article.  Focus is really the biggest thing in completing a restoration.  It's easy to stay focused during the first phase of readying the car for bodywork but after the reassembly begins it is hard to keep your eye on the ball.  I find that I start looking for the next project when I'm about 80% done with the original one!  That makes it really hard to stay focused on the first one.   I won't take on a project if it requires a lot of money.  Of course what exactly is a lot of money?  My wife thinks I spend a lot of money on cars but I don't!

bklecka New Reader
11/28/18 5:56 p.m.

I have have hauled home many cars that I parked in my shop did some exploratory disassembly on and decided that the job was beyond my skill set or price range to do a proper restore and sold off. Now I am focusing on my SVT Focus, clutch and suspension finished. Timing belt, brakes, wheels, tires and finally paint. There are plenty of small, one hour or so inexpensive jobs I can complete so I keep thinking that I am making progress on the project while I find the funds for the next large job (timing belt and water pump). I chose this car based on your recommendation in several GRM magazine articles. 

Donatello New Reader
11/30/18 11:21 a.m.

More on point #7: A money saving tip is to decide beforehand how deep you want the restoration to go. You will save heaps of time and money if you decide intentionally to not be a perfectionist and ignore some of the flaws that you (and probably only you) notice. And you will worry less about taking your car to the track.

On point #8: Get a few other people to drive your car too. A mechanic specializing in the car you are restoring can fast-track diagnosing some issues. My wife who is no mechanic at all does a very good job at pointing out why my car still dives like an "old car". Thanks honey, I didn't even have to ask you to do that for me, lol. Now that my classic has most of it's squeaks, clunks, bad smells and other quirks I had been willing to put up with all gone I do enjoy driving  it more.

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA SuperDork
11/30/18 6:48 p.m.

How about Rule 3a:  Don't disassemble the car until it's time to disassemble the car.  Lots of people tear the car apart and do a poor job of cataloging what goes where.  If it's not a full body-off or rotisserie job, perhaps doing one section at a time (like,say, the rear suspension) and reassembling it would serve the first-time restorer far better than ending up with a pile of parts in the middle of the garage floor with a forlorn-looking body on jacks.

914Driver MegaDork
12/1/18 7:09 a.m.

11.  (my nemesis) Bouncing around too much!  Spend a few hours in the garage on something, next time go do something else, a month later everything is 1% closer but nothing gets done.

Pull a fender, bang it, smooth it, prime it, set it aside.  Next.

maj75 HalfDork
12/2/18 10:00 a.m.

#1. If you can’t afford the nicest version of the car you want, you almost never can afford the cost of restoration.  It’s a thing on the C3 Corvette forum.  Guy wants a C3 Corvette, but won’t spend money for a running driving example.  He’d rather spend $3000 for a pile of crap than spend $8000 on a good runner.  Project takes years to complete or more likely never gets finished and is parted out.  Funny how those guys think their time isn’t worth anything.  My time is worth $$$.  I’d rather have a car I can drive and improve than wait years and $$$ to drive.


NOHOME UltimaDork
12/5/18 2:21 p.m.

In reply to maj75 :

True up to a point...Wont work for me. I am in the hobby for the project, not so much cause I dream of driving and maintaining the finished product. I consider my time spent on the car in the same way that others consider their time on the gold-course; money well spent. Not like you get to sell the scorecard for a profit after the 19th hole is completed.



Mr. New Reader
1/4/19 7:07 p.m.

Great article with a lot of truth.  I have just gotten back after 4+ years of restoration and modification, my 1972 De Tomaso Pantera.  I think one of the most important things you must decide early if not before you begin is "what are your goals?"  Do you want an absolute original, concourse quality car or do you want one with tasteful modifications that make the car easier and more enjoyable to drive.  In my case, I simply was never driving my gorgeous Pantera because it was such a pain in the rear.  First, getting it started nearly always meant pulling the air cleaner, dumping gas into the carb, running back into the car to try and start it, running back out to screw the air cleaner back on, and hoping the car was still running.  You couldn't drive it in termperatures above about 75F and you had to make sure there was little or no traffic lest you overheat the engine.  On the track, it would run all day long without any issues, but on the street, it was always nervous time.  So my goals were either I make this car something I can actually drive without hours of thought and planning or I sell it to someone who would do those things.  My 5.0L Jag XKR was quicker, more agile, easier for me to drive on the street and on the track, and I didn't have to worry about all of the external conditions as well as whether or not it would start.  But (a big but), that mid-engined brute that ferociously barks behind your ears wrapped in a spectacularly sexy Italian body was too much for me to give up.  But even knowing what I wanted to do, I still kept adding things besides the original goal. such as a new built engine of 500+hp, headers, new exhaust, complete leather interior along with new seats, harnesses and a respray even though the old was in beautiful condition.  I wanted it all!  And I can say that in the 4 weeks I've had the big cat back, I've driven it more than the previous 5 years prior to the restoration.  There are still a few things to do, but they're going to get done in the next few weeks while I can still continue to drive it and have fun.

I think it's important to set goals for what you want and pursue that plan.

Torqued New Reader
1/7/19 3:52 p.m.

I've made several of these mistakes along the way, but #6 wasthe most embarrassing. I did forget what I already had.  I inherited a pickup truck load of surplus MGA parts from a fellow enthusiast who was moving across the country and couldn't take with him all that he had accumulated over the years. These all sat in my garage for six or seven years, and when I retired, I had a little more time and began working on the car. I began looking through the parts that Tom had given me, and discovered that along the way I had unnecessarily purchased, when on sale of course, some of the same parts that were in some of those boxes of parts that Tom had given me. So I stopped dissassembly and did a complete inventory of all the parts on shelves and in boxes, put the info in a spreadsheet (312 lines so far).  I'm also adding parts to the spreasheet inventory as I remove them now. Hopefully this will help me avaid buying another extra carpeting kit or set of horns or bumper support bracket. 

7/15/20 5:47 p.m.

Good reminder.  Thank you for article and comments. 

BimmerMaven New Reader
7/16/20 1:36 p.m.

I hope I'm not mincing words here, as I give 2 big thumbs up for the article.


I would propose that asking yourself WHY you made a any endeavor...Is key to preventing a repeat performance.

I was trying to save time

I was trying to save money

I thought it was OK 

I didn't think ahead 3 steps

My friend thought it looked OK 

The guy at the (store /track/swap meet) said it would work

I didn't want to wait for the right part/ tool/ help

I saw someone else do it


jagracer15 None
7/16/20 3:56 p.m.

This is some excellent advice that anyone contemplating taking on their first restoration project should read!

wspohn Dork
7/16/20 4:46 p.m.

When I was young and keen I could restore a car in 9-12 months, going at it methodically and steadily.  Now I keep saying I never want to do another restoration and try and resist when a tempting candidate comes up.

I'll add a couple of things to your article.

1 - Do NOT take the car apart before doing a good survey and taking necessary measurements. I've seen people that removed everything on a car leaving a bare frame, without first doing things that can be a whole lot easier first. Replace those inner and outer rocker panels on your roadster while the doors still more or less line up with the front and rear bodywork rather than turing it into a giant Tetris puzzle that requires endles tack welding and fitting of new panels that may or may not bear any resemblnce to original factory panels..

2 - yes, I know that you are a young mentally alert person today and that you think you can just toss parts into a box as you take them off the car, but if you are one of the people that winds up having a 'stalled' (as opposed to the worst, an 'abandoned) restoration, by the time you get back to assembling what you took apart maybe years before, you may have little recollection of what went where.  Ever notice those posts on bulletin boards of "What the f*** is this thing and where does it go?"  When you take apart a car buy a lot of large ziplock bags and labels and put a label in the bag or wired to the larger parts, written in ink that will not run and disappear if it gets oil on it.  Then 5 or 10 years later you will have a clue what the parts are and won't become an object of sympathy in one of those threads.

3 - talk to other owners before you make irrevocable decisions about what you are going to do with the car.  I have seen people that had the brilliant idea that putting an obsolete siamese port Ford V6 into a rather nice Jensen Healey instead of rebuilding the much higher output and much more interesting original Lotus engine. Looked like a much worse decision when ten years later they found out that while a Jensen Healy with original engine, warts and all is probably worth less than it should be, a bastardized JH is basically worth only scrap metal value.

frenchyd PowerDork
7/18/20 4:18 p.m.

I'm sorry,  I approach things differently  

Buy with your heart. Not your wallet. 
If it's about only money  do something else.  10 hours a month could always make me more money. But Money couldn't make me work on something I don't love. 

Life happens,  when they do you can set the project aside for better times. You cannot forget your obligations just to focus on your hobby anymore than an alcoholic can forget his family when he's sitting in the bar.  

When opportunity  presents rare  parts either have the cash or credit to take advantage of that.  You don't know when or if that part will be available again. 

Do the most hated jobs early so you can reward yourself with those you enjoy later. 


7/20/20 8:17 a.m.

Yikes!  That struck a nerve.  Distraction is a deterent, too.  Almost like dating you see one that looks good but then the beauty wears off and you see another one you can't live without.  In various stages of 'restoration' there are a 1968 SRL311, 1974 260Z, 1991 Miata and '77 XJS waiting for me to finish.  In one case start. 

This might be a form of insanity.  I'll contact a shrink and get back to you.

oldeskewltoy UberDork
7/20/20 9:42 a.m.

laugh...  I think a distinction should be made between "restored-restoration" (Judged - compared to as when the car came off the production line) versus "resto-mod"(what is in the minds eye of the builder)


Let me just put these here.....  Note the engine build began 1st....


btw, Surreptitious, my current "resto-mod" began as an engine build too surprise


1) Starting With the Wrong Car - hahahahaha... it would have been nice to start with a "better" car... but sometimes you get what you get - you take a leap of faith.


2) Not driving it first -  That is a big part of resto-mod is making them more current road worthy.  It helps that I've driven many cars from the era of my projects


3) Rebuilding the Engine Too Early - As I've already noted... both of my resto-modded projects began with the engine.  The engine build motivated me onward.....


4)  Skimping on Metalwork and Paint - AGREE 10,000%


5) Checking (Not)  References: If you have been inside the car biz for long, you learn who to trust... with what.... or what not.


6) Buying Parts Too Early - I beg to differ... this ASSUMES the parts will be available later......  if there are parts houses that stock YOUR cars parts... all well and good....  but if you aren't restoring a car with a parts supply... you get what ever you need, and deal with potential duplicates if it occurs.


7) Forgetting Why You Started - motivation... it isn't easy to stay motivated...  In my case most of my builds are about some kind of creating... making it unique.


8) Skipping the Sorting Stage - The one area in Surreptitious that could have been better...  The current project I want to be much better


9) Not Admitting Mistakes - the only one you are lying too... is yourself.... unless you are a shop angry










10) Budget - expect(PLAN ON IT) to spend 50% more then your best estimate - when all is finished, if you spent less than 50% more be happy

PetervonA2 New Reader
3/13/22 11:35 a.m.

Don't do it. By now there have been enough of us and getting old "been there, done that" to satisfy most needs and wants. Use your time and money looking and networking patiently for one that is 95% of your wish. The 5% compromise with yourself is the best bargain ever! Time is too precious and can't be restored.

frenchyd MegaDork
3/13/22 12:08 p.m.

In reply to Carl Heideman :

My big mistake is starting too cheap. I used to have a $300 buy in price. ( my last one I raised to $500).  
    Then I tear out most everything and sell or throw it away.  
       I typically buy spare engines, trannys, rear ends whenever I see great deals.   trade interior parts stock wheels for race wheels etc. 
    It goes up on the rotisserie as I remove the suspension.   That's body work time. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/19/23 10:29 a.m.
PetervonA2 said:

Don't do it. By now there have been enough of us and getting old "been there, done that" to satisfy most needs and wants. Use your time and money looking and networking patiently for one that is 95% of your wish. The 5% compromise with yourself is the best bargain ever! Time is too precious and can't be restored.

Good point about time. Would you rather be in the garage or out on the road? And I realize we won’t all have the same answer here. 

additiondakku01 New Reader
4/20/23 7:13 p.m.

I find that I start looking for the next project when I'm about 80% done with the original one!  That makes it really hard to stay focused on the first one.   I won't take on a project if it requires a lot of money.  Of course what exactly is a lot of money?  My wife thinks I spend a lot of money on cars but I don't! pikashow apk

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