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Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
8/31/15 12:52 p.m.

BMW engine codes break me. I even have to google what's in my own BMW on a regular basis so I can be one of the cool kids when searching for info on it.

The Miata chassis designations are right out of the VIN, as noted. Mazda chose NA/NB/NC/ND, you'll have to ask someone there just why. The Miata engine codes are also cast on to the back of the head (at least partially) but you pretty much have to pull the engine to see it

I used to work in the high tech industry 15 years ago, TLA (Three Letter Acronym) was one of the running gags then.

Driven5
Driven5 Dork
8/31/15 12:57 p.m.

Ross brings up a good point...Chassis names are no better than chassis codes or other "acro-speak". I was somewhat disappointed when I first researched what the aggressively named "Panther" was actually referring to. Might as well use "Dictator" for the Mitsubishi Mirage platform.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
8/31/15 1:03 p.m.
dean1484 wrote:
RossD wrote: * NA/NB/NC/ND
I thought it stood for normal, not or no. Not available, No blower, Not cool, Not dead. What does the N stand for in these anyway?
iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
8/31/15 1:04 p.m.
dean1484 wrote:
RossD wrote: * NA/NB/NC/ND
What does the N stand for in these anyway?
alfadriver
alfadriver UltimaDork
8/31/15 1:07 p.m.
Driven5 wrote: Ross brings up a good point...Chassis names are no better than chassis codes or other "acro-speak". I was somewhat disappointed when I researched what the aggressively named "Panther" was actually referring to. Might as well use "Dictator" for the Mitsubishi Mirage platform.

They went from a name to a letter set.

Like the Fox was replace by the SN95. Or a good alternative to a Panther car was a DEW98.

Which kind of meant something. But even the two letter set up was changed to 1- So a DN5 changed to a DN101 is now a D258. The SN95 was replaced by the S197.

The number is meaningless. The letter is just the car class. And still is two letters for some cars- CD for instance. But all it really does is reflect the industry standard of car size classes- A, B, C, D etc.

Driven5
Driven5 Dork
8/31/15 1:13 p.m.
etifosi wrote: Dean is asking everyone to take some extra spelling time before posting, to ensure complete comprehension?

Since Dean appears to be doing exactly that, it would actually seem pretty fair for him to request as much from others.

NGTD
NGTD UltraDork
8/31/15 1:18 p.m.

In the case of Subaru's and the WRX etc. The actual model is the Subaru Impreza WRX or Subaru Impreza WRX STi. However the WRX and STi badging is actually on the car (and yes I know that on certain models you can actually find the Subaru Technica International labling) in some ways it's not an acronym like FiST. Subaru does not refer to it with the full name so to call these an acronym is sketchy.

Most people just shorten it to WRX or STi.

Now just wait until somebody starts into the chassis codes GC/GF, GD/GG, GR, etc.!!! (Hint- each grouping is a generation with the first one in the group is the sedan and the second is the wagon/hatch) The GR group is complicated as there are 4 types - 2 regular and 2 wide bodies.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UltraDork
8/31/15 1:20 p.m.
Driven5 wrote:
etifosi wrote: Dean is asking everyone to take some extra spelling time before posting, to ensure complete comprehension?
Since Dean appears to be doing exactly that, it would actually seem pretty fair for him to request as much from others.

etifosi may be referring to the sheer volume of misspelled words in his posts.

Wasn't this thread started to help Dean understand when MS3 referred to a Mazda car or a standalone ECU not so much what the M and the S and the 3 mean?

And in that vein, all it takes is literally 30 seconds of reading the post to figure that out.

When you see XJ in a title and the post says "What do you guys think about the 4.0 and the AW4 or AX-15 in 90's Jeeps?" Or "I'm looking to swap an LS into a late 90's Jaguar...", you should be able to figure it out pretty quickly.

Let's remember, Dean actually wrote:

"But what if I am interested in learning about said Acronym. Now we have to be in the know to participate? So much for inclusion here at GRM"

It's merely an opinion I hold but that statement sounds less like a car guy and more like... a... Umm

Driven5
Driven5 Dork
8/31/15 1:57 p.m.
ebonyandivory wrote: etifosi may be referring to the sheer volume of misspelled words in his posts.

As was I.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
8/31/15 2:40 p.m.
ebonyandivory wrote: Forced Induction first gen Miata. Nice, you'll fit right in here!

There we go.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
8/31/15 3:08 p.m.
ebonyandivory wrote:
Driven5 wrote:
etifosi wrote: Dean is asking everyone to take some extra spelling time before posting, to ensure complete comprehension?
Since Dean appears to be doing exactly that, it would actually seem pretty fair for him to request as much from others.
etifosi may be referring to the sheer volume of misspelled words in his posts. Wasn't this thread started to help Dean understand when MS3 referred to a Mazda car or a standalone ECU not so much what the M and the S and the 3 mean? And in that vein, all it takes is literally 30 seconds of reading the post to figure that out. When you see XJ in a title and the post says "What do you guys think about the 4.0 and the AW4 or AX-15 in 90's Jeeps?" Or "I'm looking to swap an LS into a late 90's Jaguar...", you should be able to figure it out pretty quickly. Let's remember, Dean actually wrote: "But what if I am interested in learning about said Acronym. Now we have to be in the know to participate? So much for inclusion here at GRM" It's merely an opinion I hold but that statement sounds less like a car guy and more like... a... Umm

I was being a bit facetious initially. But then when I actually did go look up MS3 on the inter-web it was not listed. I did manage to learn that there about 15 other meanings for MS3. So Ya I was being "that Guy". How does this not make me a car guy. Please explain that to me so the Borg can assimilate me.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
8/31/15 3:12 p.m.
Driven5 wrote:
etifosi wrote: Dean is asking everyone to take some extra spelling time before posting, to ensure complete comprehension?
Since Dean appears to be doing exactly that, it would actually seem pretty fair for him to request as much from others.

It is not about "spelling" it is about adding a bit of clarity, and or content, for us less informed so we can learn, or god forbid participate. Maybe we should really call it Acro-Code-Speak.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
8/31/15 3:16 p.m.

I need a "Acro-Code-Speak" decoder ring.

Wonder Twin Powers Activate. .. . . . .

Ok I will stop.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UltraDork
8/31/15 3:22 p.m.
dean1484 wrote: How does this not make me a car guy. Please explain that to me so the Borg can assimilate me.

"But what if I am interested in learning about said Acronym. Now we have to be in the know to participate? So much for inclusion here at GRM"

I was referring to the quote above that you posted earlier. I guess it just sounded whiny.

The best way to be "included" might not be asking that people explain in detail what every acronym means. Or worse yet, try to guess which ones you know and which you don't.

But I'll say it one more time: a quick reading of the context in which an acronym is used will clue you in. Then if necessary, you do a quick internet search. That will narrow down your search and tell you if CDC stands or Centers of Disease Control or Cult of the Dead Cow. I mean it's either that or ask that every acronym have its parent word(s) explained in every post.

RossD
RossD PowerDork
8/31/15 3:24 p.m.

For the most part, I love engine/chassis codes because of my engineering side or something. I'd like to remember the RX-7 ones but never seem to, and when some says something about a Civic chassis code, my eyes glaze over and I probably start thinking about good dark beer..

And I was actually serious when I said someone should update the GRM wiki page for the common acronyms and their meanings. You could probably link it to their respective wiki pages for better clarity.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
8/31/15 4:38 p.m.
ebonyandivory wrote: CDC stands or Centers of Disease Control or Cult of the Dead Cow.. .. . .

I don't know why but I found this really funny.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UltraDork
8/31/15 4:40 p.m.
dean1484 wrote:
ebonyandivory wrote: CDC stands or Centers of Disease Control or Cult of the Dead Cow.. .. . .
I don't know why but I found this really funny.

You sound like a good dude, Dean! You really do. (And no, not just because you thought my post was funny!)

Old_Town
Old_Town New Reader
8/31/15 4:55 p.m.

...And then if we really want to get crazy technical, most of the the items in this thread are initialisms and not acronyms.

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
8/31/15 5:45 p.m.
Knurled wrote: Just ordered an upper ball joint from V8 Roadsters to replace the one I destroyed. Part number FUBALL ...Yeah, sounds about right.

when I registered my Disco.. the lady at the DMV flagged my VIN code.. seems that "SALTY" as the first 5 letters looked weird to her

TRoglodyte
TRoglodyte SuperDork
8/31/15 5:50 p.m.

Why is a LGBTGT such a thing all of a sudden? I thought it was just a LBC? Now they are all having parades?

KyAllroad
KyAllroad Dork
8/31/15 6:19 p.m.

That have parades for folks from long beach California now? Or London Broadcasting Company?

Wally
Wally MegaDork
8/31/15 6:31 p.m.

TL:DR

Driven5
Driven5 Dork
8/31/15 7:00 p.m.
alfadriver wrote:
Driven5 wrote: Ross brings up a good point...Chassis names are no better than chassis codes or other "acro-speak". I was somewhat disappointed when I researched what the aggressively named "Panther" was actually referring to. Might as well use "Dictator" for the Mitsubishi Mirage platform.
They went from a name to a letter set. Like the Fox was replace by the SN95. Or a good alternative to a Panther car was a DEW98.

Right. I just never figured out how somebody at Ford looked at what they were building and thought (let alone was able to suggest with a straight face) that "Panther" was a more appropriate code name than "Elephant", "Athroplasty", or "Adult Absorbent Garment".

alfadriver
alfadriver UltimaDork
8/31/15 7:05 p.m.

In reply to Driven5:

Engines still have odd names. No idea how they got them- seem to be named after natural disasters.

And occasionally, there are named projects- like Panama. No idea how that one was thought of.

As for panther- well, it's supposed to make you not think of it.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
8/31/15 7:22 p.m.
alfadriver wrote: And occasionally, there are named projects- like Panama. No idea how that one was thought of.

I am going to assume it's so the project team could have a kick-ass theme song.

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