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mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
4/22/16 8:18 a.m.

I have always thought of the LS as a pretty car.. but the few I still see running on the streets are all in terrible shape.

rslifkin
rslifkin HalfDork
4/22/16 8:20 a.m.
mad_machine wrote: I have always thought of the LS as a pretty car.. but the few I still see running on the streets are all in terrible shape.

It seems to me like a decent car that met the unfortunate fate of being bought by a bunch of E36 M3ty owners.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
4/22/16 8:27 a.m.
rslifkin wrote:
mad_machine wrote: I have always thought of the LS as a pretty car.. but the few I still see running on the streets are all in terrible shape.
It seems to me like a decent car that met the unfortunate fate of being bought by a bunch of E36 M3ty owners.

It was a decent car that was never "tuned" to it's potential. Which made it have crappy re-sale values, and hence E36 M3ty owners.

Technically, it had as much or more potential than the 5 series. Never, ever, came close.

(and started the path of "what is Lincoln trying to be?" which I still don't know)

Will
Will SuperDork
4/22/16 6:25 p.m.
RossD wrote: Is the rear end the 8.8" or the 7.5"?

Neither. However, an 8.8 differential will fit. 8.8 gears won't, but the diff will.

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
4/22/16 8:59 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver:

I doubt even Lincoln knew what they wanted.....hell, they barely seem to know their direction now. The LS is still probably the best handling Lincoln ever made however.

slowkid
slowkid New Reader
4/23/16 10:26 a.m.
WOW Really Paul? said: Damn, I need the transmission out of that so I can north/south a 3.4L v8 sho engine......

http://www.usautosterlingheights.com has a black 5 Speed Lincoln LS ($100.00 for trans + core): https://www.facebook.com/1384000358511632/photos/pcb.1748564415388556/1748563882055276/?type=3&theater (12th car in the album)

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
4/23/16 10:54 a.m.
belteshazzar wrote: I'm categorically disinterested in a V8 sports sedan that uses the same transmission which already feels overwhelmed in sohc V6 rangers.

It's not the same transmission. And it's not that great of a swap candidate for a street car unless you can get a really tall rear gear because iirc the 5th gear is 1:1.

belteshazzar
belteshazzar PowerDork
4/23/16 12:42 p.m.

I realize they're not interchangeable or anything, but what tangible differences are there?

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
4/23/16 11:33 p.m.

Uhh, one of them is a Getrag 221 and the other one is a Mazda M5OD. So the tangible difference is they are totally different transmissions with totally different everything?

I've never driven a 5spd LS but i've driven lots of M5ODs and i like them just fine in the trucks.

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero UltraDork
4/24/16 10:16 a.m.

The Getrag 221 has a similar gear ratio to Getrags starting with 90s 3 and 5 series + ZF310 (E36 M3 and E34 530i). In fact, the ratios (with minor changes) were used until the introduction of the F3x cars (those have the double OD 6speeds).

The 4cyl cars ran 3.45 and 6cyl ran 2.93/3.15/3.23. The 530i ran 3.07. The 6speeds tacked on an OD gear.

belteshazzar
belteshazzar PowerDork
4/25/16 8:02 a.m.

I was talking about the automatic transmission found in the V8 model.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
4/25/16 9:49 a.m.

Oh, well in that case i agree with you. I don't think it's a particularly good transmission.

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
4/25/16 11:02 a.m.
slowkid wrote:
WOW Really Paul? said: Damn, I need the transmission out of that so I can north/south a 3.4L v8 sho engine......
http://www.usautosterlingheights.com has a black 5 Speed Lincoln LS ($100.00 for trans + core): https://www.facebook.com/1384000358511632/photos/pcb.1748564415388556/1748563882055276/?type=3&theater (12th car in the album)

That core charge could berkeley you royally.

slowkid
slowkid New Reader
4/27/16 12:24 p.m.
WOW Really Paul? wrote:
slowkid wrote:
WOW Really Paul? said: Damn, I need the transmission out of that so I can north/south a 3.4L v8 sho engine......
http://www.usautosterlingheights.com has a black 5 Speed Lincoln LS ($100.00 for trans + core): https://www.facebook.com/1384000358511632/photos/pcb.1748564415388556/1748563882055276/?type=3&theater (12th car in the album)
That core charge could berkeley you royally.

Sorry, I wasn't accurate with my description: Lincoln LS 5 speed trans (or any transmission) would be $75.00 + core charge of $25.00, which means you would be out the door price of $106.00 including 6% MI sales tax. Of course you have to add your price of gas to get there & your own labor to pull it (they have A-Frame chain pull hoists for use).

http://www.usautosterlingheights.com/pricelist.html <<< scroll down to transmission price.

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
4/27/16 1:00 p.m.

In reply to slowkid:

Ahh, gotcha. Those places typically make stuff difficult to find.

Chadeux
Chadeux New Reader
4/27/16 3:21 p.m.

Last time I saw one of these it was driven buy an older gentleman that had hacked the mufflers off. I completely approve of the noises it was making.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet UberDork
4/27/16 3:32 p.m.

Back around 2003, a college buddy bought one of these (a 2000 V6 with an automatic). Aside from it being slow, I felt like the interior was squeaky, creaky, and cheap. I don't think 10-16 years of time is going to do that aspect any favors.

That 3.9 they offered was a weird little V8, and don't forget, the retro Thunderbird used it too. I thought it was a half baked effort back then, and time hasn't done it any favors. Unless I found a later V8 model in real nice shape for a super cheap price, I would probably pass.

Will
Will SuperDork
4/27/16 6:01 p.m.

The thing I discovered when I was shopping for one is that if you don't want a BMW, there's very little available in the small-midsized RWD sedan segment.

gunner
gunner Reader
4/27/16 10:23 p.m.

I had some kid stop light drag race me in a v8 LS. I was in my e28 M5. I was being lazy and still nosed him out of a win. Probably not relevant but the only LS experience I've got.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
4/29/16 8:25 a.m.

Bought one, had fuel intake problems, found that new intake parts don't exist, installed a used one and sold it. Drove nice enough but I had no confidence in it's ability to get me back home

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