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Keith
Keith SuperDork
1/7/12 9:04 p.m.
Twin_Cam wrote: Well, there's the ever-famous turbo F20C (or whatever the designation for the S2K motor is, the 9K rpm one) into the front of a 1g Saturn SL2, converted to RWD. A mid-engine Viper-powered Dodge Caravan would be cool. Forget the MB diesel engines, I want like some huge diesel V8 into an XJ Cherokee. If it would fit. Ferrari V12 into an older (like early '70s) American pickup.

How about a Wagoneer?

http://www.jpmagazine.com/featuredvehicles/154_0909_1977_jeep_wagoneer_the_jerrari/index.html

JamesMcD
JamesMcD Reader
1/7/12 9:26 p.m.
Keith wrote:
Twin_Cam wrote: Well, there's the ever-famous turbo F20C (or whatever the designation for the S2K motor is, the 9K rpm one) into the front of a 1g Saturn SL2, converted to RWD. A mid-engine Viper-powered Dodge Caravan would be cool. Forget the MB diesel engines, I want like some huge diesel V8 into an XJ Cherokee. If it would fit. Ferrari V12 into an older (like early '70s) American pickup.
How about a Wagoneer? http://www.jpmagazine.com/featuredvehicles/154_0909_1977_jeep_wagoneer_the_jerrari/index.html

I might be mis-remembering, but I want to say that there's a similarly swapped Wagoneer out there, but with a Lamborghini V12, and that it was built by Chrysler or by a Chrysler employee during the time that Lamborghini was owned by them.

JamesMcD
JamesMcD Reader
1/7/12 9:36 p.m.

-I think a 20B would suit an XJS pretty well.

-Any exotic V12 into the FD chassis.

-F2T into FD chassis just to upset people (would need a dry sump and custom intake manifold).

-Some kind of stright-6 with Weber DCOEs in a '61-'62 Valiant or Lancer

Fit_Is_Slo
Fit_Is_Slo Reader
1/8/12 12:16 a.m.
kb58 wrote: Gosh those people look small...

I know

DaewooOfDeath
DaewooOfDeath HalfDork
1/8/12 6:35 a.m.
Ranger50 wrote:
Twin_Cam wrote: Ferrari V12 into an older (like early '70s) American pickup.
To shoot that a little off center with the recent discussions, why not a Jag V12 in a 67-72 Chevy 1/2ton?

Bill Harrah did this.

DaewooOfDeath
DaewooOfDeath HalfDork
1/8/12 6:40 a.m.

Oh, other idea. 1jzGTE in a C3 Corvette with the valve cover painted blue and labeled "Blue Flame."

Twin_Cam
Twin_Cam SuperDork
1/8/12 10:46 a.m.

Ha! That's awesome, the Jerrari. I was thinking Ferrari V12 into a primer-flat-black 1970 Chevy C10, dropped a few inches, ridiculous lightweight wheels, modern multilink suspension underneath, etc etc.

I guess a Lambo V12 would be more relevant into a modern Jeep, eh? SRT-12, Chrysler? Are you listening, Mr. Marchionne? Redeem your company for the Cirrus, LeBaron, Caliber, 300, and Intrepid?

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
1/8/12 11:07 a.m.
Twin_Cam wrote: Ha! That's awesome, the Jerrari. I was thinking Ferrari V12 into a primer-flat-black 1970 Chevy C10, dropped a few inches, ridiculous lightweight wheels, modern multilink suspension underneath, etc etc. I guess a Lambo V12 would be more relevant into a modern Jeep, eh? SRT-12, Chrysler? Are you listening, Mr. Marchionne? Redeem your company for the Cirrus, LeBaron, Caliber, 300, and Intrepid?

Your inference doesn't make any sense. Marchionne wouldn't have anything to do with Lamborghini. VW owns lambo. Fiat owns Ferrari.

But, yes...SRT-12 does sound like a winner.
ME Four-Twelve sounds even better...

mblommel
mblommel Reader
1/8/12 12:10 p.m.

Turbo miata powertrain in a '62 Ranchero.

turboswede
turboswede SuperDork
1/8/12 1:46 p.m.
Twin_Cam wrote: Ha! That's awesome, the Jerrari. I was thinking Ferrari V12 into a primer-flat-black 1970 Chevy C10, dropped a few inches, ridiculous lightweight wheels, modern multilink suspension underneath, etc etc. I guess a Lambo V12 would be more relevant into a modern Jeep, eh? SRT-12, Chrysler? Are you listening, Mr. Marchionne? Redeem your company for the Cirrus, LeBaron, Caliber, 300, and Intrepid?

Chrysler did own lamborghini back in the day, which lead to some interesting engineering exercises:

http://aseclub.net/forums/index.php?/topic/128017-old-skool-dodge-daytona-lambo-v8-see-for-yourself/

They really wanted an AWD Daytona as they built the Daytona 444(4-cyl, 4-valves, 4wd) as well.

Ranger50
Ranger50 Dork
1/8/12 2:52 p.m.
turboswede wrote: They really wanted an AWD Daytona as they built the Daytona 444(4-cyl, 4-valves, 4wd) as well.

You could do that now with a 2.4 from a Stratus/Sebring then either spring for a manual SRT Cailber AWD, I think altho I am probably wrong, or stay autotragic and use an old Caravan or Pacifica AWD setup.....

EvanR
EvanR Reader
1/8/12 3:20 p.m.

I want to put that whole turbo Firefly front subframe behind the seat of a Se7en.

turboswede
turboswede SuperDork
1/8/12 4:01 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote:
turboswede wrote: They really wanted an AWD Daytona as they built the Daytona 444(4-cyl, 4-valves, 4wd) as well.
You could do that now with a 2.4 from a Stratus/Sebring then either spring for a manual SRT Cailber AWD, I think altho I am probably wrong, or stay autotragic and use an old Caravan or Pacifica AWD setup.....

The Caravan setup sucks monkey butt, so, no. The Caliber setup I think was only available with autotragic.

Might as well use an EVO or DSM solution.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon SuperDork
1/8/12 5:42 p.m.
aeronca65t wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote: I sometimes wonder why SCCA doesn't try to start a low buck bike powered car class........
To a degree they already have this in Formula 500 (which started out as Formula 440). Formula 500 I'm not sure how successful it's been. I know a lot of the old (440) cars have been relegated to autocross (where they are pretty successful).

F500 is cool, no doubt about that. But they are not cheap, a new motor is around $3500.00 and up, on the page you linked it seems some of them hit the $5k range. Add a chassis and bodywork, you are now looking at probably $10-$12k minimum. The 2 stroke motors are also extremely loud (or at least the ones I have heard have been), noise has been a problem with motorsports for years and these don't help.

I realize the class 'specs' I sort of pulled out of my butt wouldn't be as fast as F500, but that's not the point. It would be specifically designed to help people get into road racing without a large investment in $ and (at least as important) space for all their equipment. Like a shifter kart, you could conceiveably run the whole thing out of a 2 bedroom apartment and a cargo van.

patgizz
patgizz SuperDork
1/8/12 6:44 p.m.

grand national engine in c4 vette has been done before. there is a guy on the vette forum building a turbo ecotec c4 autocrosser now.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/autocrossing-and-roadracing/2951047-my-xp-c4-build-is-in-full-swing-build-log.html

SteveinToronto
SteveinToronto
1/8/12 7:15 p.m.

Prius + 427 + side exhausts + Prius owners convention + smokey burnout = priceless.

... but some people think I have socializing problems.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku SuperDork
1/8/12 7:40 p.m.
SteveinToronto wrote: Prius + 427 + side exhausts + Prius owners convention + smokey burnout = priceless. ... but some people think I have socializing problems.

Winning!

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku SuperDork
1/8/12 8:01 p.m.

Hartley V8 + Vega GT

Conquest351
Conquest351 HalfDork
1/8/12 8:59 p.m.

I've also really had a bit of a wet dream about a boosted 4.3L GMC V6 or 3.8L Grand National V6 or a new Ecoboost in a BiTurbo using a Porsche 944 or 968 transaxle.

ST_ZX2
ST_ZX2 HalfDork
1/8/12 9:43 p.m.

AMC 401 in a Nash Metropolitan. Make it a road-race roadster...something like this:

a401cj
a401cj Reader
1/8/12 9:44 p.m.

wait till one of the handful of '71 Hemi Cuda convertibles comes up for sale. Buy it. Rip out the elephant and install a slant-6. Just to piss off the berkeleying Barrett Jackson set

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
1/8/12 10:04 p.m.
a401cj wrote: wait till one of the handful of '71 Hemi Cuda convertibles comes up for sale. Buy it. Rip out the elephant and install a slant-6. Just to piss off the berkeleying Barrett Jackson set

Stuff a NEW hemi in it. Make sure you punch holes all in it for the ECU, and swap the suspension and stuff too. Sell at a swap meet.

cheechthechi
cheechthechi New Reader
1/8/12 11:15 p.m.

Polaris 1000 cc two stroke tripple turbocharged in a Honda N600.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
1/8/12 11:33 p.m.

I keep wondering if a Ecotec would fit in my 92 Nissan. 200 HP would be fun.

JFX001
JFX001 SuperDork
1/8/12 11:50 p.m.

I would like to put one of those older NASCAR V-6's in an SVO.

Or, and Indy Buick V-6 (like Scott Breyton) in a Cobra replica.

On board with the Powerstroke Lincoln (prefer a coupe...or maybe a thrashed '56 Lincoln Mk II).

Also on board with a cut-down fire truck sporting a behemoth V-16.

Right now, my mind has been on a 50's Maser/Testarossa/SLR replica trip in aluminum with a turbocharged 3.7L , 4cyl Mercruiser engine. Painted Maroon, with Borrani's.

Funny side note, I was posting to an editor of a car mag today about the Dodge Decepzione...that was a cool car.

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