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iansane
iansane HalfDork
7/12/21 1:25 p.m.

In reply to pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) :

Let's be honest here. As much as I love that car, I'm sure McLaren only spent pennies engineering it...

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/12/21 3:57 p.m.

Air-cooled VW Beetles are/were everywhere, but how about a Mexican-built example? 

Wikipedia says that this is a 2004 example. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
7/12/21 4:47 p.m.

In reply to pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) :

Pretty sure that Patrick had one at some point.

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
7/12/21 5:55 p.m.

Was going to say Mini Cooper, cause driving one is like wrasling with a greased-up horny otter in a gunny-sack. But then I remembered that  I hate FWD.

 

So I defaulted to something that I lusted for as a young man with no $$$

 

And then I recalled that they went back and made an even more modern and lethal version. Final answer

mrhappy
mrhappy Dork
7/12/21 6:37 p.m.

Can't believe the aerocoupe hasn't been posted yet.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
7/12/21 7:27 p.m.

In reply to mrhappy :

Me neither!  Probably the last of the NASCAR homologation specials.  IIRC it was available also on the Grand Prix.

 

now, talking about unicorn option packages...

You could get an Iron Duke in a 3rd gen Camaro.  I have seen exactly one, and I'd like to say it had a four speed manual.  Interestingly, the only pics I could find were all in junkyards.

According to a 1986 new car buyer's guide I had, you could get the 4 cylinder in a Z/28!

Fr3AkAzOiD
Fr3AkAzOiD Reader
7/12/21 7:38 p.m.

'06/'07 Malibu and Malibu Maxx SS.

When new they were priced between the LT and LTZ trim levels but were pretty much a LT with a sunroof and a 3.9L v6 instead of the 3.5L.

Put out about 240hp/tq and weighed around 3300 lbs which is a bit over 40 addition hp/tq compared to the 3.5L.

The Lt/Ltz with about 100k miles are running $4/$5k but I have seen the SS going for $8-$10k.

 

 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
7/12/21 7:41 p.m.

In reply to Fr3AkAzOiD :

That is really cheap for what you get!  The Maxx has a TON of rear seat legroom, too.

Mr. Peabody
Mr. Peabody UltimaDork
7/12/21 7:57 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

now, talking about unicorn option packages...

You could get an Iron Duke in a 3rd gen Camaro.  I have seen exactly one, and I'd like to say it had a four speed manual.  Interestingly, the only pics I could find were all in junkyards.

I can’t believe I missed that one. I’ve seen a handful but somebody ran one of those at our local dirt oval in mini stock. It didn’t do as well as I thought it should have. 

Mazdax605
Mazdax605 PowerDork
7/12/21 10:10 p.m.

How about an Evo/Galant VR4 in a mom jeans minivan body?

 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
7/13/21 12:20 a.m.

Scion's release colors. Dammit, you build a sports car, and give us the blandest colors on the planet.  I know you can do colors, because you did this:

But you only did it 1,500 times.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
7/13/21 6:11 a.m.
Appleseed said:

Scion's release colors. Dammit, you build a sports car, and give us the blandest colors on the planet.  I know you can do colors, because you did this:

But you only did it 1,500 times.

Only available for the first six months of the first year of production.

 

It's a "halo color".  Not meant to sell well, and they often didn't, but meant to look good in advertisements.

buzzboy
buzzboy Dork
7/13/21 6:52 a.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Ultima Edicion! The Mexican bugs are interesting too in that they retained some of the more outdated parts. Wolfsburg switched to semi-trailing arms in 69 while Puebla produced swing axle cars up until the end. Weird to think too that after German production ended the Mexican Beetles were exported to Europe.

Harvey
Harvey SuperDork
7/13/21 9:07 a.m.
bobzilla said:

190HP/160TQ  with a 7200rpm redline from a 2.3L DOHC 4-cyl in 1991. 

Wat? How is that even?

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
7/13/21 9:50 a.m.
Harvey said:
bobzilla said:

190HP/160TQ  with a 7200rpm redline from a 2.3L DOHC 4-cyl in 1991. 

Wat? How is that even?

Quad Fours had 160hp with automatics and 180hp with manual trans.

The 190hp engine was in a Showroom Stock homologation special - the Calais 442 and the Acheiva SCX.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
7/13/21 10:08 a.m.

In reply to Harvey :

I've seen exactly one since they were new (well, 2 including the one in the showroom when it was still new). It was GM's showroom stock effort at the time. Interestingly enough, the cams for the LDO and the pistons are still available.

calteg
calteg Dork
7/13/21 12:33 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:
Harvey said:
bobzilla said:

190HP/160TQ  with a 7200rpm redline from a 2.3L DOHC 4-cyl in 1991. 

Wat? How is that even?

Quad Fours had 160hp with automatics and 180hp with manual trans.

The 190hp engine was in a Showroom Stock homologation special - the Calais 442 and the Acheiva SCX.

Even 180hp is really impressive. The Civic Si didn't crest that number until 15 years later

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
7/13/21 12:38 p.m.

In reply to calteg :

If you want perspective, the US spec M3 had a 190hp 2.3l four.  Honda had yet to approach that number with the H-series engine.

 

I drove a Beretta GTZ once.  GTU was auto, GTZ was manual.  It's probably too much power for that chassis.

psteav (Forum Supporter)
psteav (Forum Supporter) Dork
7/13/21 3:28 p.m.
Cooter said:

Of course, this weird obsession with odd versions of the '80-89 M body led me to grabbing this odd California only 318/4bbl plastic-wooded single horned beauty from the west coast. (with our own Synthetic Blinker Fluid ably enabling me by going 10 hours out of his way to drag it home for me in the middle of winter)

 




 

I'll go one notch unicornier.  15 years ago I looked at a '78-'89 Volare wagon with the 318 4bbl, plastic wood, and a four speed (833OD).  Same color as your LeBaron.  Unfortunately it was horrifically rusty even by Volare standards.   If that wasn't a one-of-one combo, I'd be surprised.

Mr. Peabody
Mr. Peabody UltimaDork
7/13/21 3:38 p.m.
bobzilla said:

In reply to Harvey :

 Interestingly enough, the cams for the LDO and the pistons are still available.

I still have a couple sets of of the Quad 4 HO and W41 cams.

I love that motor. It's nasty

Growl_R
Growl_R
7/13/21 3:45 p.m.

In reply to Ian F (Forum Supporter) :

I bought one new and after a few 'upgrades' had a real rocket ship that would turn heads at BMWCCA track events.

I wish I still had that car!

Growl_R
Growl_R New Reader
7/13/21 3:47 p.m.

In reply to Colin Wood :

enough torque to pull buildings off thier foundations :)

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
7/13/21 4:40 p.m.
Mr. Peabody said:
bobzilla said:

In reply to Harvey :

 Interestingly enough, the cams for the LDO and the pistons are still available.

I still have a couple sets of of the Quad 4 HO and W41 cams.

I love that motor. It's nasty

There was one (the only one I'd seen) that ran around Gereencastle back in the late 90's. Straight piped. It sounded nasty at idle. Then the kid would rip it and wind out all 7500rpms and it was seriously rowdy. Still one of my favorite GM 4-bangers. 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
7/13/21 4:42 p.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

I forgot about the Calais 442. The Acheiva was just so homely looking... and making more power than all of its competitors of the era with similar cylinder counts. Was Honda even making 190hp with their non-NSX V6?

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
7/13/21 4:58 p.m.
bobzilla said:

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

I forgot about the Calais 442. The Acheiva was just so homely looking... and making more power than all of its competitors of the era with similar cylinder counts.

Not all of them...

They banned AWD shortly after, then they banned turbos after they were still overcompetitive.  Then the class died because everyone else said "berk this"...

 

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