ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
2/2/24 8:27 a.m.

I need to buy some of one of the below oils.  Does anyone know where I can buy it by the quart or gallon (NOT a 55gal drum)?

Karacticus
Karacticus SuperDork
2/2/24 8:30 a.m.

I'd be looking at farm stores,  but you'd still probably have to be looking at equivalents and not name brands. 
 

Should at least be able to get you down into the gallon(s) range. 

RevRico
RevRico MegaDork
2/2/24 8:32 a.m.

Tractor supply, rural king, farm family home, most equipment rental places and farm stores should have it by the gallon or 5 gallon. Could trying calling the local hydraulic hose place or equipment mechanic as well.

ClearWaterMS
ClearWaterMS Reader
2/2/24 8:35 a.m.

i swear last time I needed hydraulic oil i used ATF.  That was for my quickjack

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
2/2/24 8:36 a.m.

MSC has Mobil DTE25. Not sure what the smallest they carry (I bought it in 5 gal pails), but I am sure they can source it for you if there is a smaller size available.

Call them if it is not on the website.

Edit:

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/18071225

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
2/2/24 8:46 a.m.
ClearWaterMS said:

i swear last time I needed hydraulic oil i used ATF.  That was for my quickjack

DTE25 is so light that feels like ATF and can probably be replaced with it. The machines I used them were kind of expensive and not worth the risk though.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
2/2/24 8:50 a.m.
Slippery said:

MSC has Mobil DTE25. Not sure what the smallest they carry (I bought it in 5 gal pails), but I am sure they can source it for you if there is a smaller size available.

Call them if it is not on the website.

Holy E36 M3.  Thanks.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
2/2/24 9:00 a.m.

Also check local oil distributors. Since you're sourcing multiple brands you'll likely have to find multiple to cover the list. 

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
2/2/24 9:04 a.m.

In reply to bobzilla :

I think he only needs one. Those are all the different brand his machine will take. At least on CNC machines you will find a list like that with different options to use. 

But yeah, a local dist will be able to supply and cross reference more options as well. 

Toyman!
Toyman! MegaDork
2/2/24 9:27 a.m.

FLAPS carries it as well. AW46 is a fairly standard weight. 

 

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
2/2/24 9:41 a.m.
Slippery said:

In reply to bobzilla :

I think he only needs one. Those are all the different brand his machine will take. At least on CNC machines you will find a list like that with different options to use. 

But yeah, a local dist will be able to supply and cross reference more options as well. 

Yeah just the one.  Probably will be good for the next decade or so.

Thanks guys.  There is a purchasing team at work that should handle this, but they weren't getting anywhere.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
2/2/24 11:40 a.m.

My mistake. I thought you were trying to source them all. 

APEowner
APEowner UltraDork
2/2/24 12:27 p.m.

I've bought hydraulic oil at NAPA

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
2/2/24 1:03 p.m.

Amazon?  Walmart?

Peabody
Peabody MegaDork
2/2/24 1:16 p.m.
Slippery said:
ClearWaterMS said:

i swear last time I needed hydraulic oil i used ATF.  That was for my quickjack

DTE25 is so light that feels like ATF and can probably be replaced with it. The machines I used them were kind of expensive and not worth the risk though.

What he's looking for is an AW46 hydraulic fluid. So that's anti wear hydraulic with an ISO VG (Viscosity grade) of 46 centiStokes at 40C.  Most ATF is in the 32 range, with some of the newer low viscosity ATF's being in the 20's. 

Would it work? Sure it would, but oil is spec's for a reason. Rule of thumb for hydraulic fluids, if it's indoors and temp controlled, use 46, otherwise, 32. AW10, 22, and 68 are used but far less common. All the specs are available on the material data sheet. 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
2/2/24 2:05 p.m.
Peabody said:
Slippery said:
ClearWaterMS said:

i swear last time I needed hydraulic oil i used ATF.  That was for my quickjack

DTE25 is so light that feels like ATF and can probably be replaced with it. The machines I used them were kind of expensive and not worth the risk though.

What he's looking for is an AW46 hydraulic fluid. So that's anti wear hydraulic with an ISO VG (Viscosity grade) of 46 centiStokes at 40C.  Most ATF is in the 32 range, with some of the newer low viscosity ATF's being in the 20's. 

Would it work? Sure it would, but oil is spec's for a reason. Rule of thumb for hydraulic fluids, if it's indoors and temp controlled, use 46, otherwise, 32. AW10, 22, and 68 are used but far less common. All the specs are available on the material data sheet. 

Especially for hydraulic fluids, NEVER go lower than specified. If you need to use something not the specified grade, you go up in vis to the next. Lubrication 101. 

Trying to compare ISO grades to SAE is problematic as they are tested at different temperatures. 40*C for ISO and 100*C for SAE. Most ATF's fresh should start as a thin 30, thick 20 weight SAE that will sheer down into a thin 20, which would put it in the neighborhood of an ISO 46-68 depending on formulation and additives. 

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
2/5/24 2:48 p.m.

Ok, now I know why this was so hard.  I was reading the wrong the column.

Where can I buy the Heat Transfer oils in the 2nd column? 

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
2/5/24 3:56 p.m.
Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
2/5/24 3:58 p.m.

They carry Mobil and should be able to get you what you need:

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
2/5/24 4:12 p.m.

Thanks, I reached out to them.  They seem to be geared toward LARGE customers, but we'll see what they say. 

As I said in my first post though I am specifically looking for NOT a 55 gallon drum.  I need like 5 gallons or less.  If they will fill a 5 gallon drug for me, great :)

thewheelman
thewheelman Reader
2/5/24 4:24 p.m.

Last time I needed to source some esoteric-spec hydraulic oil, I got in contact with my local Schaeffer Oil distributor. They got me what I needed within the week. I did have to order by the 5 gallon pail, though. But even then, it was less than $100. Of course that was ~14 years ago. 

https://www.schaefferoil.com/

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
2/5/24 5:02 p.m.

In reply to ProDarwin :

Just an idea. If you cannot find a source, see if Petroliance has a customer of theirs that buys the grade you need and they are willing to share their info. I would then call the customer and offer to swing by and buy a gallon. I did that before with a different product.

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