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aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
10/11/14 11:21 p.m.

Welcome to the (un)official GRM - Gran Turismo 6 racing League - Series 4

This is a championship series based on the cars and spirit of the Grassroots Motorsports (and what is available in GT6). Although highly competitive the main focus of the racing is fun clean racing. Because of this, rough driving is highly discouraged.

Shortcut to this thread: tinyurl.com/GRMGT6S6

FINAL STANDINGS

Sunday FINAL STANDINGS

This league will consist of 10 races run weekly, and 2 classes on each of the two days (Wednesday and Sunday)

  • Only cars listed below allowed
  • Only ONE version of each car allowed
  • If duplicates are picked, higher finishing car keeps the car (only two challenges allowed per driver, non-used car must be picked after loosing a challenge twice)
  • Top half of standing as mid-series break (e.g. 1-4 of 8), are REQUIRED to switch cars. Car switch to CANNOT be any of the top half cars used. (part time drivers will be excluded)
  • Car switching is allowed at mid-series break (considering above restrictions)
  • Tires are Sport Soft
  • 500 pp max
  • 95% Power limiter max
  • Exhaust modification to get best sound required.
  • No suspension tuning
  • Brake upgrades and bias adjustment allowed
  • No weight reduction
  • No adding weight
  • No forced induction
  • No upgraded dif (clutch and driveshaft mods allowed)
  • It is preferred if the cars are painted to appear how that model of car (or similar) as it appeared in a movie or TV.

Available Cars:

  • AAR Cuda
  • Buick GNX
  • Camaro SS
  • Camaro Z28
  • Challenger R/T (white - Vanishing Point)
  • Charger 440 (orange / Black, Dukes of Hazard, Bullit)
  • Chevelle 454
  • Cougar
  • Cuda 440
  • El Camino
  • Mustang Mach 1 (bronze, Gone in 60 seconds)
  • Nova SS Black, Death Proof
  • Shelby GT350 (not R) Forrest Green, Bullit
  • Super Bee
  • Superbird (faded yellow / baby blue, Joe Dirt/Richard Petty
  • Tempest GTO
  • Trans Am (black and gold, Smokey and the Bandit)

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  • Two of each cars shown below (challenge rules as per MC series)
  • 450pp (444pp for the Civic)
  • Sport Soft Tires
  • All modifications allowed except NOS and aero (wings etc)

Available Cars:

  • Renault Sport Clio R.S. 2011
  • Honda CIVIC TYPE R (EP) 2004
  • Volkswagen Golf V GTI 2005
  • Renault Sport Mégane R.S. 2008
  • MINI MINI COOPER S 2011
  • Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 2002
  • Volvo C30 R-Design 2009
  • Ford Focus ST 2013
  • SEAT Ibiza Cupra 2004
  • Ford Focus ST 2006

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There is also a special, separately tracked series run on Sundays BEFORE the two above series, using the same track. This series also has two races:

  • Car MUST be:Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (any variation)
  • Two of each available version of the EVO (challenge rules as per MC series)
  • 475 pp max (oil change allowed)
  • ONLY power modification are allowed to get to the PP limit, no other changes allowed (except as noted below).
  • Brake bias adjustment is allowed
  • 10% Maximum Power Limiter reduction
  • Car can be painted and numbered
  • SM Tires

  • Car must be from the list below
  • Only TWO versions of each car allowed. If there are more then two picked, higher finishing car keeps the car.
  • Car tuned to 503pp
  • All tuning allowed (except as noted below)
  • 10% Maximum Power Limiter reduction
  • No NOS

Available Cars:

  • Volkswagen Golf IV GTI
  • Honda CR-Z Touring Car
  • BMW 320i Touring Car
  • Honda CIVIC Type R (EK)
  • Mazda Roadster
  • Honda INTEGRA TYPE R
  • Mazda Atenza
  • Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC5)
  • Mazda Mazda6
  • Toyota ALTEZZA
  • Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (S15)
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR
aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
10/11/14 11:21 p.m.

To help equalize cars and/or drivers, cars will be handicapped based on finish position. Handicapping is detailed below.

MC: -10pp (490pp: Only use Power Limiter and removing power adders, no adding weight)

HH: -5pp (435pp)

Evo: -10pp (465pp)

JTC: -10pp (493pp)

HC levels will be tracked on the Standing board above.

Additional Point Leader HC: Any participant who is 1st place by at least 5 points will always have the designated HC for that series for the next race.

Points:

  • 1st - 16 points
  • 2nd - 14 points
  • 3rd - 12 points
  • 4th - 11 points
  • 5th - 10 points
  • 6th - 9 points
  • 7th - 8 points
  • 8th - 7 points
  • 9th - 6 points
  • 10th - 5 points
  • 11th - 4 points
  • 12th - 3 points
  • 13th - 2 points
  • 14th - 1 points

  • Two extra points for the biggest shunt victim. Voted by participants if needed.

Points for the championship will consist of your 8 highest scores (you will drop your lowest scoring race). With this, missing a race won't eliminate your chances. First tie breaker is total 1st place finishes. Second tie breaker is ROC/Challenge race.

Starting and Restarts

If major glitching, drops or a large series of collisions (CF) occur at the start or within a few turns of the start anyone witnessing a significant enough of an event should type RESTART in the message window and a restart will be initiated. In the event of a restart:

  • All participants will exit the track
  • Once everyone has left the track and instructed to, re-enter the track
  • Line up on the track in the original starting order (as best can be re-created) with special emphasis on the top 3 cars.
  • Wait for the race countdown and do not change your order.

Rolling start: The lead qualifying will be responsible for pacing the pack at 80 mph to a designated point (probably the last turn before a back straight) at which point the race starts (in the case of a restart, the starting point will be much closer to the start line).

There is NO passing until that point, and previous to the start point cars will attempt to get into the original start order. If another major glitching incident occurs with the re-start, the glitching car will be asked to start at the back and stay clear of cars for the first few turns. Ultimately a glitching car may be asked to leave, which will be avoided if at all possible.

Rules: (Repeated violations / complaints will result in a DQ.)

  • Qualifying: A 10-15 min qualifying session will be held before each race. A one lap "reset race" will be run before the first race qualifying to clear/reset the qualifying times.

  • You must start the race on the tires that you qualify on. (The Spool rule)

  • All driving aids are off (TCS, Driving line, etc), except ABS

  • Damage is set to Low, draft to High, edge setting is Real, penalty is set to Off.

  • Racing etiquette applies (e.g. it is the responsibility of the overtaking driver to ensure a clean pass). Keep the racing clean.

  • Passing Consideration: No passing under braking. Make certain you have a clear position on a car (beside the car) BEFORE a corner if you plan to pass in a corner. In such a case both cars are required to provide driving room in the corner (punting rule does apply). See below for examples.

  • Braking consideration. In order to avoid rear-ending others during braking, please either take a different line from the car you are following or fade brake as shown below:

  • Corner Cutting: Maintain two wheels on the track (not curbs) at all times. Cutting is allowed to avoid hitting other cars (do not improve your position)

  • Punting Courtesy Rule: The following driver is responsible for not making contact with the car in front. If you push someone else off of the track you are required to wait for them to return to the track and allow them to stay in front of you for at least one turn. This rule also applies if you force someone into a cut if they have a clear reasonable position beside you.

  • Track Re-Entry: If you do run off the track, re-enter the track by merging into the track, parallel to the track. Give way to faster traffic. Avoid crossing the track or driving slower in the racing line when possible.

  • One Move Rule: When being followed by another car, you are allowed one move that is out of the normal racing line per section (straight / turn) of the track. E.g. if someone is drafting up behind you, you can cut to the inside to take that line, but cannot then cut back to the outside. Swerving to avoid the draft is not allowed (although you can still make the one move).

Duplicate Car Challenges

In some cases there may be a restriction as to the number of duplicates of each car type are allowed. In the case where two drivers show up with the same car, the challenge rules apply.

  • You can only loose two challenges. After two, you must pick an available car (unused for MC, unused or only one used for the others).

  • You can only challenge for a particular car once. The second challenge would have to be another car.

  • If any of the drivers of the car you are challenging for have a HC, you must run a HC (lowest finisher still looses the car).

  • If during a challenge, any of the cars are negatively effected by a verifiable shunt, the challenge will be run again the next week, or a short 4 min runoff race (only challenge cars allowed) will be run after the normal races if time allows.

Registration:

If you would like to compete in 1 or more classes, you will need to have AllAirCooled (ARR-Argo1 and Dean1484 are alternates) (PSN IDs) as a friend to enter the room. Send me a PM, or post in this thread listing:

  • PSN ID
  • GRM ID
  • Desired Class(es) and car choice (if applicable)

Drop ins are also generally welcome. If you are not planning on actively competing is the series, please avoid hindering any of the active drivers.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
10/11/14 11:21 p.m.

All races are held in Private Lounges. In order to find the room you will need to have another participant in your friend list( preferably Dean, Argo or Allaircooled) and click on the "Show Friends Only" checkbox near the bottom of the Online screen.

Races scheduled to be held on Wednesday evenings. Each class race would run sequentially. At 8PM Central Time (9ET, 6PT) we will run a one lap "reset race" to zero out the qualifying times.

Qualifying for the first race will start immediately after the reset race with the race starting at approximately 15 after (depending on participant arrival). The second class will start qualifying at aprox. 8:45 - 9:00PM Central Time, with the race starting at approx. 9:00 - 9:15PM Central Time.

Event Schedule and Results:

Results color coding: Blue = Pole Position, Green = Fast Lap, Purple = Shunt Award (blue/green is pole and fast lap)

  • 10/22 - Round 1 Silverstone International [x/x laps]

  • 10/29 - Round 2 Apricot Hill [x/x laps]

  • 11/5 - Round 3 Nurburgring D [x/x laps] (Special rule: Jump allowed for MC race)

  • 11/12 - Round 4 Twin Ring Motegi East [x/x laps]

  • 11/19 - Round 5 Rome Reverse [x/x laps]

- 11/26 - Mid-Season Thanksgiving Break: Testing and goofing off

  • 12/3 - Round 6 Spielburg Short Track

  • 12/10 - Round 7 Madrid Mini [x/x laps]

  • 12/17 - Round 8 Grand Valley East [x/x laps]

  • 12/24 - Christmas Break: More testing and goofing off (maybe we test the Track Maker that PD supplies us as a Christmas present?)
  • 12/31 - New Years Break: Testing etc...
  • 1/7 - Round 9 Special Stage 5 Clubman [x/x laps]

  • 1/14 - Round 10 Deep Forest [x/x laps]

  • 1/21 - Challenge/ROC: (if needed)

Results / Standings Spreadsheet Link:

Wednesday:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LWV2yLbcklsx-O59zPFu5O_BzFrTB8zyY74Qh3C55ws/edit?usp=sharing

Sunday:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-XD9O1_l45skeuxCq1fJSbVOUzih92inEdP3j-yejt0/edit?usp=sharing

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
10/11/14 11:22 p.m.

Team Photos and other silliness:

Nick:

Grizz:

CAM:

Grae:

Cars for Sunday Night Series  Oct. 14, 2014 photo CityofArtsandSciences-Night_zps79b7c686.jpg

Here are my Wed. Nt. cars:

Wednesday night cars for the next series of GT6 Oct. 14, 2014 photo CityofArtsandSciences-Night_2_zps08ebaf6c.jpg

Dean:

Air:

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
10/11/14 11:28 p.m.

Let me know if you see any errors / issues.

Grizz
Grizz UltraDork
10/11/14 11:29 p.m.

E: Placeholder done with, my cars are gonna be:

70 Superbird

11 Clio R.S.

00 Lancer Evo 6 RS TME

Altezza TC.

23 as my number if I can have it.

dean1484
dean1484 UltimaDork
10/11/14 11:59 p.m.

Need to change the HC regs in the 2nd post and the series that they reference.

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
10/12/14 12:06 a.m.

So... did we ever figure out what the HC's are supposed to be?

Grizz, we might need some of you time to test the HC's. What we are looking for is a second or two a lap slower. Probably more like 1 sec for the shorter tracks.

Argo1
Argo1 SuperDork
10/12/14 7:45 a.m.
aircooled wrote: So... did we ever figure out what the HC's are supposed to be? Grizz, we might need some of you time to test the HC's. What we are looking for is a second or two a lap slower. Probably more like 1 sec for the shorter tracks.

10pp in each class will probably work since they are all similar in PP+/-. We need to test. I thought this week was a practice race (and HC test) and that points races would start the week after? May also want to get rid of the Thanksgiving Eve and Christmas Eve races...

dean1484
dean1484 UltimaDork
10/12/14 9:18 a.m.

I was anticipating a practice tonight as well. A dry run if you will. I still have not picked a JTC car or an EVO to use.

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
10/12/14 10:42 a.m.

OK, I am fine with that. I am out tonight anyway.

If you get a chance, give someone a HC for a race and see what it does.

Looks like this series hit a lot of holidays. Thanksgiving eve, Christmas eve AND New Years eve. I am guessing we should bump New Years eve also? I think I will just move the mid-series break to Thanksgiving, there will be plenty of breaks to test on.

We won't know the winner until NEXT YEAR!

I am hoping (Christmas wish) the track maker will show up before Christmas. That will provide plenty of testing/ goofing off opportunities.

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
10/12/14 11:36 a.m.

Also: Please confirm racing restrictions and formats. Is JTC going to be running Fuel and Tire use? What race lengths?

Argo1
Argo1 SuperDork
10/12/14 1:16 p.m.

Looks like from what Dean has posted that there is no change to the Sunday format. Still four short races. Looks like longer pit stop races will have to wait.

dean1484
dean1484 UltimaDork
10/12/14 1:56 p.m.
Argo1 wrote: Looks like from what Dean has posted that there is no change to the Sunday format. Still four short races. Looks like longer pit stop races will have to wait.

Since we don't have a race tonight why don't we try a fuel and tire race say 15 laps at GVE or GPD to test it.

Argo1
Argo1 SuperDork
10/12/14 3:44 p.m.
dean1484 wrote:
Argo1 wrote: Looks like from what Dean has posted that there is no change to the Sunday format. Still four short races. Looks like longer pit stop races will have to wait.
Since we don't have a race tonight why don't we try a fuel and tire race say 15 laps at GVE or GPD to test it.

Lets run a 20 minute timed race as a test.

dean1484
dean1484 UltimaDork
10/12/14 3:50 p.m.

Sounds like a plan

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
10/12/14 4:03 p.m.

So in HH, is everything else open except for what is listed? Or is the list the only changes allowed?

Argo1
Argo1 SuperDork
10/12/14 4:37 p.m.
Nick_Comstock wrote: So in HH, is everything else open except for what is listed? Or is the list the only changes allowed?

Open. I don't think the intention was even to limit anyone to Race Hard suspension. That's just the way Dean tested them. HH is our tuner series. MC is the restricted one. Should be standard tuning with the 90% limiter restriction.

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
10/12/14 6:30 p.m.

Is jtc RH tires?

Argo1
Argo1 SuperDork
10/12/14 7:11 p.m.
Nick_Comstock wrote: Is jtc RH tires?

Depends on what series we run. If we use pit stops, choice will be open.

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
10/12/14 7:26 p.m.

From what I've seen so far, HH and Evo can go berkeley themselves. There is no joy to be found there. Only frustration and horribly ill handling turds.

dean1484
dean1484 UltimaDork
10/12/14 7:28 p.m.

No clue re the tires. I tested a while back and got 13 laps on fuel and 7 laps on tires at gve. This makes it plasable to be a fuel and tire series for sure. I am logging in in a moment and I am going to test a couple cars and see what we get.

Grizz
Grizz UltraDork
10/12/14 8:00 p.m.

There might be a color theme to my cars, and it might involve my be-winged speedboat.

Grizz
Grizz UltraDork
10/12/14 9:28 p.m.

So when's this starting tonight?

Advan046
Advan046 Dork
10/12/14 9:35 p.m.
Argo1 wrote:
Nick_Comstock wrote: So in HH, is everything else open except for what is listed? Or is the list the only changes allowed?
Open. I don't think the intention was even to limit anyone to Race Hard suspension. That's just the way Dean tested them. HH is our tuner series. MC is the restricted one. Should be standard tuning with the 90% limiter restriction.

Hot Hatch is not limited to race hard suspension. Full tuning series except for no smaller number than 90% power, no NOS and no aero mods.

I tested on race hard suspension to reduce my workload developing a list of cars.

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