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jrw1621
jrw1621 SuperDork
10/25/11 2:53 p.m.

In reply to 4cylndrfury:

Bookmarked!

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
10/25/11 2:56 p.m.

In reply to 4cylndrfury:

I have that site bookmarked, along with 4 or 5 others that have similar lists. But in none of them have I found an angle grinder, so I'm not sure how this helps. Did I miss it?

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Web Manager
10/25/11 2:56 p.m.

In reply to bravenrace:

They have grinders, but you'll need to run a compressor.

http://www.siouxtools.com/index.php

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
10/25/11 3:07 p.m.

Tom beat me to it, but heres another http://www.intlairtool.com/products/ingersoll-rand-301-right-angle-die-grinder-20-000-rpm.html

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
10/25/11 3:10 p.m.

Well, like my title said, I need an electric grinder.

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
10/25/11 3:13 p.m.
4cylndrfury wrote: Tom beat me to it, but heres another http://www.intlairtool.com/products/ingersoll-rand-301-right-angle-die-grinder-20-000-rpm.html

I'm just asking because I want to know, but where do you see that the grinder in the link is madein the USA? My undestanding is that Ingersol isn't making them here anymore. I couldn't find anything in that link stating otherwise.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
10/25/11 3:13 p.m.

http://www.madeinusa.com/
http://madehereinamerica.com/default.aspx
http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/
http://www.saveourcountryfirst.com/
http://www.madeinusa.org/
http://www.buyamerican.com/
http://www.buyamerican.com/

heres just what a cursory search turned up...Im sure theres countless others

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
10/25/11 3:14 p.m.

..And none of them list an American made electric grinder, do they?

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Web Manager
10/25/11 3:17 p.m.

Sorry that you're recieving so much well-intentioned-but-not-precisely-what-you-want-with-a-bow-on-it help.

Maybe you could take an broken, old electric angle grinder to a local electric motor repair shop? Better to spend locally anyway I'm told.

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
10/25/11 3:27 p.m.
Tom Heath wrote: Sorry that you're recieving so much well-intentioned-but-not-precisely-what-you-want-with-a-bow-on-it help. Maybe you could take an broken, old electric angle grinder to a local electric motor repair shop? Better to spend locally anyway I'm told.

I never asked for help finding a grinder, and especially an air operated one. I already have one of those.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
10/25/11 3:30 p.m.

what is going on here??

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
10/25/11 3:39 p.m.

I have no idea.
Seems to me like I'm under attack because I don't want a grinder powered by a source different than what I need. I also have a gas engine in my pickup because I didn't want a diesel. I don't know why I didn't just get a diesel anyway, but I thought that since I wanted a gas engine, I should probably get a gas engine
But really, I made this post to lament the demise of the American made electric tool. I didn't ask for help finding one because I had already done a ton of research and was "pretty" sure it doesn't exist, at least on a consumer level. I didn't ask for help finding one, but I appreciate the effort.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Web Manager
10/25/11 3:45 p.m.

If I'm walking down the street and I hear someone say "man, these sacks of flour are heavy!", I'm likely to try and help. Even if he didn't ask. From the way this post has gone, it seems like there are others that like to help.

I'd say this is the conversational equivalent of that sort of "help". Not everybody wants it.

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
10/25/11 3:56 p.m.

Do you help that person by telling him that you have a wheel barrow that can'tt haul sacks of flour?
This thread was fine until you decided to make comment attacking me in a back handed way. I'm not sure what I did to deserve it, but you obviously like to do that in my posts, as it's happened more than once. If you don't like me or my posts, you don't have to read them.
BTW, how is it helping anything to offer information on an air powered tool when the thread was about electric tools? I don't get it.

Keith
Keith SuperDork
10/25/11 4:05 p.m.

Metabo and Bosch are made in Germany. Not the USA, I understand. But not China.

Check the Makita GA7021 and 9565CV - I found some notes that they MAY be US made.

Even when angle grinders were made in the US and wrapped in American flags, I suspect the components were actually from all over the place. It's been a global economy for some time.

We actually have been moving to more US-made products. A big reason for this is actually stability - exchange rates don't play havoc with prices. We also don't have to deal with the hassle of importation. But there are some crap manufacturers in the US as well as overseas. Locale doesn't guarantee anything.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Web Manager
10/25/11 4:22 p.m.

If he were lamenting the fact that he could really use a pickup truck, I might suggest a wheelbarrow instead. Mission accomplishment>method in my book.

Again, I'm sorry I offered up an American-made method to grind metal. I didn't realize that electric was more important than American made. My mistake. I've learned my lesson and won't offer to help you that way again.

I'm sorry that my comment came off as an attack, but to that point, you hadn't even bothered to say "thanks" to any of the other users who had tried to help, and that's downright un-neighborly.

ThePhranc
ThePhranc Reader
10/25/11 4:36 p.m.

If you want an American made tool open a factory and build one your self. When you see how hard it actually is because of regulations, taxes and law suits from environmentalists you will soon under stand why so little is actually made here.

Snowdoggie
Snowdoggie Dork
10/25/11 4:57 p.m.
ThePhranc wrote: If you want an American made tool open a factory and build one your self. When you see how hard it actually is because of regulations, taxes and law suits from environmentalists you will soon under stand why so little is actually made here.

I would rather the Chinese drink all that polluted groundwater than to have it come out of my tap.

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox Dork
10/25/11 4:58 p.m.

Flounder, anyone?

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
10/25/11 5:14 p.m.
oldtin wrote: The mericun people have voted with their wallets - they choose cheap over quality.

isn't that the truth. That's why we are all big fat out of work slobs

MitchellC
MitchellC Dork
10/25/11 5:26 p.m.

Until Americans are willing to pay US labor rates, American manufacturing is unlikely. Face it, Americans are cheapasses. The US has developed a consumer culture of buying the most for the least; until people are willing to pay more for quality, manufacturing will continue to go to the lowest bidder.

Also remember that American manufacturers (I'm looking at you, automakers) really screwed over their reputation. They had very loyal customers, but the manufacturers blew it pure and simple with stodgy, old-fashioned thinking and old-fashioned design.

I'm a bit curious what will happen to Harley once the boomers become too old to ride. I can count on one hand the amount of Harley riders I know in my age group (1). It would take me a lot of hands and feet to count all of the people I know with metric bikes. American manufacturing is great, but the company has to provide a product that the consumer wants in order for it to even be considered.

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
10/25/11 5:41 p.m.
Grizz wrote: In reply to bravenrace: I honestly don't care about the future of our country. I stop giving a E36 M3 after friends and family. China has us by the balls while we have them in the ass. They can't do anything to us without ruining themselves.

reminds me of an interesting quote I heard; "If you owe the bank a million dollars, they own you. If you owe the bank $100 million, you own them."

tuna55
tuna55 SuperDork
10/25/11 5:49 p.m.

I am not sure I get it. Nobody came up with an electric angle grinder made in the US yet? Perhaps they don't exist, that's surprising. Maybe it's time for swap meets and whatnot instead. I'm with you.

MitchellC
MitchellC Dork
10/25/11 6:03 p.m.

Thankfully, soapboxes are still made in the US.

ThePhranc
ThePhranc Reader
10/25/11 6:06 p.m.

In reply to MitchellC:

Labour isn't the cost that keeps Americans from manufacturing in America. Kia BMW and other companies pay American labour rates. But they also have the capitol to comply with the over regulations. A start up in America would need 1/2 a billion to use just for all the BS.

Quality doesn't have to cost more. That is a myth. Most quality is perceived but not actual.

What blew American manufacturing were a mix of costs associated with regulations and overly burdensome union wages and benefit packages.

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